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Sooners’ Stoops: What’s The Bottom Of The SEC Done?

Bob-StoopsDon’t tell Oklahoma’s Bob Stoops that the SEC is special.  When discussing the gap between the Southeastern Conference and his own league, the Big XII, on Monday, the Sooners’ coach had this to say:


“Well, it depends on what gap you’re talking about.  What are the bottom six doing?

… So they’ve had the best team in college football.  They haven’t had the whole conference.  Because, again, half of ‘em haven’t done much at all.  I’m just asking you.  You tell me...

So you’re listening to a lot of propaganda that gets fed out to you.  You’re more than smart enough to figure it out.  Again, you can look at the top two, three, four, five, six teams, and you can look at the bottom six, seven, eight, whatever they are.  How well are they all doing?”


This is the new argument for folks outside the SEC.  “Well, it’s really just a few schools that are good.”  Unfortunately, that’s a hollow argument.  Here’s why:


  Conference   Teams Winning BCS Titles
  SEC   5 (Alabama, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Tennessee)
  Big XII   2 (Oklahoma, Texas)
  ACC   1 (Florida State)
  Big East   1 (Miami, FL)
  Big Ten   1 (Ohio State)
  Pac-12   1 (Southern Cal – Vacated)


Has everyone in the SEC won a championship during the BCS era?  No, but five teams have… which is more than double the number of title-winning teams any other league has produced in recent years.  That seems like a rather sizable gap.

Obviously, no league can have 14 schools all win in a given year.  League-mates beat up on one another.  But top to bottom — that’s top to bottom the SEC dominates everyone else come bowl season, sending more teams to bowls and winning almost 60% of those games.

Traditionally speaking, the bottom programs of the SEC have been Kentucky, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Vanderbilt.  Last season, Vandy beat the ACC’s North Carolina State in a bowl game.  The Commodores have won two bowls and been to three since 2008.

Last season, Ole Miss beat the Big East’s Pittsburgh in a bowl game.  The Rebels also won a pair of Cotton Bowls over Big XII teams Texas Tech and Oklahoma State in the 2008 and 2009 seasons.

Last season, Mississippi State fell to Northwestern (Big Ten) in its bowl, but the Bulldogs have won their other two bowls since 2009 beating Michigan (Big Ten) and Wake Forest (ACC).

Kentucky has fallen on hard times in recent years, but the Wildcats have been to five bowls since the 2006 season and won three of them (over Clemson, Florida State and East Carolina).

And speaking of the Wildcats, perhaps Mark Stoops can clue his brother in on the dangers of the SEC when he runs the league’s gauntlet for the first time this fall.  Though Brother Bob should already know all about the SEC.  He’s lost to both LSU and Florida in BCS Championship Games.



I think there is a marketing component to this. Stoops as a head coach in a league cannot say, no matter what the question from a reporter, that his team is not in the toughest conference out there. Coaches in the B1G, Pac 12, and some even in the ACC, will all twist the answer in a way to champion their conferences' accomplishments. If Stoops had said, "Hell yes, the SEC is the best conference," how could he then walk into Texas to compete for players against other outside of Texas recruiters? He has Arkansas, LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Kansas, et al to compete with for the 4 and 5 star Texas recruit who is willing to go out of state. Anyone counted the number of Texas players on OU's roster? And now there is A&M in the SEC? Stoops fan base is not happy with him right now. Getting stomped in post season play by the SEC has to be spun as an annomaly. Stoops is on borrowed time if he does not pull something spectacular out of the hat. And with the recruiting year he just had, that is not likely. His one saving grace, Texas still has Mack Brown as their head coach, so he may be able to tear them up enough again to hold the dogs at bay.


Jealousy and envy, two pathetic traits.


Didn't A&M just wipe his Sooners out in their last game? 4th place A&M beat the crap out of the Big XII co-champ? Yeah, I thought so.


he is aware that all conferences end up with an overall (conference) record of .500, right?  i would hope so.  every conference is going to have their bottom dwellers, especially with so many elite teams taking all the wins.  the more elite teams you have, the more illusional bad teams you have.  put last year's  teams like mizzou, miss. st, ole miss etc in another conference and they likely would have won more games.  that's just the way it is, so dillusional bob needs to worry about his own team that not so coincidently lost to all three heisman finalists.


This sounds like the ramblings of an OverRated Under Perfroming team for many years...Yes ole Bobby has had some success in what is a mediocre league for a few years, but always ranked way to high and always seems to falter down the stretch...I would think from the Top, Middle and Bottom of the league the Big XII is very average at best!  Just sounds like sour grapes from a coach, in a conference with no  direction, teams leaving as fast as they can rent U-Hauls to get out of town...I say let UT and OU form their own 2 team conference and play each other 12 times a year and hope for mid tier bowl  game!


Don't worry about the left jabs, it's the right hook that'll kill you.

I'm not fussed about a HC talking to/for the home media.  The people who count know that if you don't have to play two or three top five teams every year you won't have two or three extra losses every year.


Interesting. Every BCS winner (except Ohio State) is from warm weather locations. Just a coincidence? I don't think so.


When I hear the talk about the bottom of the league's record that says more to me about the top of the league not losing games it shouldn't.  Bob is an expert in that area.


Bob Stoops was also the defensive coordinator at Florida under Steve Spurrier.


@PhilipKelly We were a bad team last year, no way to sugar coat it.  We didn't win a sec game, bad teams shouldn't win conf games.  Good teams beat bad teams all the time, avg teams beat bad teams most of the time.

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That was a different era from the current run of SEC dominance in the BCS world, but yes, Stoops was the DC for Florida's 1996 national championship team.

Thanks for reading,


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